Darrell Lewis: When I walked in the door, he goes, "I need you to look at this something's wrong with this case.". "I dont know. Over the years, Vicky and a private detective Jessica Sanders worked to uncover what happened to Kadie and River Lynn. Pre-trial matters are expected during a motions hearing, but no date has been set. Peter Van Sant: Did you suspect foul play? Aaron told investigators Kadie seemed to have gotten paranoid the week of her death. WebNow, in a small hospital where soft sobs echoed off the sterile linoleum floors, Aaron Easton, the boy Sara married who grew up to be Marysvilles police chief, explained what Rick Ollic: She was alive when the train struck her to me it was self-inflicted. The note and wedding rings found in Kadie's pocket. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. In the morning, the entire Hall family was searching for Kadie and River. She said it's too painful. "48 Hours," because we would not be standin' here today if it wasn't for them. She thought someone was coming to kill her and then she took off, he told Hall. Oliver has been working closely with Berkeley County's cold case unit. Andre McDonald, 40, already behind bars in connection with his wifes disappearance, was charged Saturday with murder by the Bexar County Sheriffs Office Homicide Unit. Back then, Ollic and his team did not speak to Dr. Case, and Hall says would not listen to what she had to say. She claimed that he wanted the unborn son, Aadon, to be displayed publicly. What do you have to say about that? Peter Van Sant CBS News. Two months after the suicide ruling, Hall hired a forensic psychologist in the hopes of proving Ollic wrong. Leave. She does have to walk sixth-tenths of a mile down there to get hit by the train. Peter Van Sant: She could have been thrown and struck by the side of the train? Hours: Fatal Crossing chronicles what happened for the initial ruling to be overturned and the suspicion regarding Aarons involvement. No matter how long it takes, Vicky Hall will battle on until the truth is found. DET. Investigators with the sheriffs office say Majors husband, Aaron, is the only suspect in the case. Oliver will soon be meeting with the doctor who performed the autopsies on Kadie and River, and who recommended the manner of death be left pending. Ollic also had officers thinking Kadies mom was crazy. It was the sickest thing I ever witnessed in my whole life. Andre McDonald, 40, was charged WebKadies husband, 36-year-old Aaron Major, told investigators in an interview several days after the deaths that she may have had postpartum depression. He said that might have After the tragic deaths, it was reported that Aaron moved to Charleston, South Carolina, to live with his parents. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Then, at 11:31 a.m., came a call from Aaron that would alter the course of her life. We only need 42 more signatures to reach the 5000 signatures! Salisbury said he would not discuss the case with The Post and Courier. I believe it's another injustice to allow him to remain in law enforcement. The citizens would like town council to review the case, the interview and see how Ollic failed. That's the million-dollar question right now. Not the following Thursday i believe the 24th after his surgery. Investigators at the scene where Kadie's body was found beside the train tracks; her little daughter was found drowned in a pond 100 feet away. Aaron Carters cause of death is suspected to be a drug overdose and maybe the rapper relapsed as said by his family. Everything wasn't there (with the case) that could have been there.". Ollic believed it was a murder-suicide and says a note found in Kadie's pocket was a piece of compelling evidence showing that she was delusional at the time. Dylan Eason and Isaiah Churchwell were convicted of murdering Cynthia William "Patrick" Alexander remains in prison for murder. Peter Van Sant: What did you read in those papers? An online petition asking for the town of Moncks Corner to investigate Ollic has more than 3,000 signatures. There's power in numbers! , Post and Courier, an Evening Post Publishing Newspaper Group. I know she's up in Heaven sayin', "You go, Mom. or redistributed. Out of all his alleged scare tactics, the most heartless, says Sanders, is video shot by Aaron 10 months after Kadie and River's deaths and laid it on their grave. The force of the impact allegedly threw River into a nearby creek where she drowned. There's no way Kadie would have ever, ever killed River or herself. Thus, when Aaron was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to a life term without the possibility of parole, Shayanna legally changed her name to Jenkins-Hernandez. The bill would impose an additional 5-year sentence for those convicted of committing a crime while out on bond for a previous violent crime and force those charged with a violent crime while out on bail to pay full cash bail. A railroad worker had discovered the bodies around 8:20 that morning. An ex-minor league hockey player who decided that hiring a hitman to murder his wife was cheaper than a divorce was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. And every night the forlorn cry of its whistle brings her grief roaring back. Grace Beahm Alford/Staff, Kadie Majors mother, Vicky Hall, organizes information she has collected about the incident that led to the death of her daughter, who was found dead with her granddaughter, 10-month-old River, in 2008 along train tracks Thursday, March 21, 2019 in Moncks Corner. Bond today was reduced from $2 million to $450,000 by Judge Frank Castro in the 399th district court. Lt. Dean Kokinda: We don't know how River came into contact with the water. James Waybern Hall: The murderer known as "Big Jim" killed 4 people, including his wife, in Arkansas between 1944 and 1945. Howe and West recently denied representing Aaron when contacted by The Post and Courier. Chad Dillinger: She'd call me in the middle of the night. But Aaron's behavior he's not acting normal, he's not acting right. When two "48 Hours" producers called him asking about the Kadie Major case, he listened. In another version, he says she did go in to feed the baby. 2019 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Vicky Hall: Still that same stuff about the Twin Towers just being a conspiracy. Corwin was the wife of United States Marine Jonathan Corwin, and the two were living at the Twentynine Palms Marine base in California. Lt. Kokinda thinks, like Sanders and Hall, the trouble started back at the house. WebAaron had also told the police that his wife was dealing with postpartum depression, and the authorities believed that Kadie killed herself in a delusional state. The lab didnt even receive the blood samples until 1/23/08 Autopsy report wasnt signed until February 11th. Ollic stating. On July 23, 2002, Elizabeth Shannon fatally shot Major I'm numb just totally broken, just totally dead, totally devastated. Kadie Lee Hall was born in Michigan in February 1981. Aaron Major: Because I don't have any comments at this time. Lt. Dean Kokinda: To me that is very symbolic of her ending the relationship. Erica has covered a wide array of stories all over Central and South Texas. "I remember, I was just walking outside by myself, and I just looked up and I said, 'Kadie and River, I promise you I will do whatever it takes to find the truth,'" Hall tells correspondent Peter Van Sant. Vicky Hall: I couldn't fight no more for a while. She called Hall to tell her that she would be the grandmother to a baby boy. "There was no alarm. The force of the railroad cars threw 10-month-old River into a nearby creek. Her 10-month-old daughter, River, was found drowned in a creek near the train tracks. Peter Van Sant: You believed that she was walking along these railroad tracks carrying her daughter River with suicide on her mind? Peter Van Sant: How would you describe the quality of the original investigation done? He has been tasked with potentially overturning Kadie's manner of death. The evidence was noteworthy, and the Berkeley County Sheriff's Office began a new investigation. Jessica Sanders: There was a fight. Vicky Hall: Captain Ollic is right there and I'm just looking him in the eye, and I just remember his face. Her body lay beside the track with a nearly 2-foot cut on her abdomen and a laceration on her inside thigh. On the icy cold night of She rarely sees the man she believes put her daughter and granddaughter in their graves, but she says he has harassed the family for years -- even at the cemetery. The walls were painted with whiteboard paint and were covered in timelines and transcriptions. Market data provided by Factset. WebA San Antonio Air Force Reserve major who reported his wife missing in March has been arrested and charged with murder, authorities said. Aaron wanted Aadon, the unborn child, publicly on display with Kadie's casket. Aaron told a version of that story to Kadie's uncles, adding that she was suffering from postpartum psychosis. The only times those websites were looked at was when Aaron would have been home, Sanders said. All rights reserved. Peter Van Sant: What does that suggest to you, the fact that he's told different stories? ", Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. VICKY HALL [to reporters]: Thank you to this sheriff's department. The West Richland, Washington, home where Shanna Gardner-Fernandez, inset, moved after her ex-husband, Jared Bridegan, was murdered in north Florida. Correspondent Peter Van Sant interviews Kadies mother Vicky Hall and the detective assigned to the case in 2008. However, his stories seemed inconsistent. But he was locked up two days later, on evidence tampering charges,afterauthorities reportedly found blood at the couple'shome and obtained evidence McDonaldbought a shovel, an ax, gasoline and a burn barrel., TEXAS MURDER SUSPECT GETS 99 YEARS FOR ONE-HOUR JAIL ESCAPE. Its evident that her priority right now is her daughters, and itll stay that way for a long while. There was no mention of a swollen hand. Hall suspects he also put a doll with a hole in its stomach at the makeshift memorial where Kadie and River's bodies were found. Vicky Hall, center, is surrounded by investigators and family as the case into the deaths of Kadie and River Lynn is reopened. "It was just like all of a sudden, she just got real paranoid, and, you know, quit trustin' people and stuff," he told investigators. Vicky Hall: I remember telling myself, "Oh My God what is wrong? So I wasn't looking forward to meeting with her. Her husband talking about conspiracy theories. He said that she wanted to go to a hotel, to which Aaron replied he would take her after he took a shower. Lt. Dean Kokinda: Why is she on the tracks in the first place? During questioning in 2008, the investigator never asked Aaron Major about his bandaged hand. His position as the Chief of Police now in Moncks Corner is a direct reflection of incompetence in that position. Page by page, recording by recording, and interview after interview, they found that law enforcement's explanation didn't add up. Say Yes to the Dress: Bionic Model Rebekah 38 Weeks Pregnant, Its a Boy! Berkeley County Sheriff Duane Lewis said Aaron is a suspect in the death of Kadie, River, and Aadon. WebHelen Marlene Major (ne Oakes; December 7, 1954 October 11, 1980), best known by her middle name and posthumously by her maiden name, was an American woman who was I had to take some breaks and I wouldnt stop and Ive taken breaks and [Im] learning how to take care of myself. WebTwo days after details of Hong Kong socialite Abby Chois grisly murder emerged last Friday, Ms Moka Fang, the wife of Hong Kong superstar Aaron Kwok, said that it is still difficult How could someone not have interviewed the family about those things? But they still had a lot of questions. Jessica Sanders: I catch cheaters and anyone who's lying pretty much. Sanders and Hall found that suspicious because he had searched for news about the discovery of the bodies more than an hour after he had called Hall to say he had just heard about it on the radio. Lewis said Aaron has not cooperated with authorities yet. Vicky had further stated that Aarons behavior was strange during Kadies funeral. Darrell Lewis There's a new sheriff in town. You are the only suspect in the deaths of your family. Hall had just grabbed takeout, so they didn't meet up. By Grace Beahm Alford gbeahm@postandcourier.com. Rick Ollic: There were some things that were in that note that made me believe that she was buying into this spiritual warfare that she had going on in her life. He heard her truck start and she's gone. 48 Hours airs tonight November 11, 8/7c on Investigation Discovery. It is unclear if Aaron has new legal representation. That night, Aaron was asked to give a written statement to authorities. Back at Kadie's house, Sarah Watford was waiting alone in case her sister came home. he said he went and took a shower." Winds light and variable. The next day, eight days after his wife and baby died under mysterious circumstances, Aaron, with a freshly bandaged hand, was finally brought in to the Sheriff's Office for questioning: DET. Furthermore, Vicky and Sarah (Kadies sister) were sure that his hand was swollen the day the bodies were located. After the tragic deaths, it was reported that Aaron moved to Charleston, South Carolina, to live with his parents. Major was also pregnant at the time. Powered by WordPress.com VIP. Vicky Hall then stepped up to the microphone. Hall got her horse business back on track, then did something she never thought she'd do with the paperwork from her private investigation. With the help of some good friends and a strong dose of faith, Hall stopped drinking. I mean, I was worried. Berkeley County Sheriff Duane Lewis said there are multiple persons of interest including Kadies husband. Hall and Sanders say there were more damning clues back at the house. Vicky Hall: And she had this beautiful little smile that made her just look like an angel. Sarah Watford: The thing that that stands out that I read that I will never forget is that the first born son is to be sacrificed. Peter Van Sant: If there was in fact not a news broadcast How would he have known that location, that there'd been an accident there? A note left at his family's residence was not answered. "That turned out to be a 12-year-old boy who couldn't remember what day of the week it was. Originally, investigators believed the death was a murder-suicide, but the case gained national attention on CBSs 48 Hours.. She really was. File/Grace Beahm Alford/Staff, Kadie Majors mother, Vicky Hall, looks down the tracks where the body of her daughter Major, who was pregnant and her 10-month-old granddaughter River were found in 2008, Thursday, March 21, 2019 in Moncks Corner. Paul Venema is a courthouse reporter for KSAT with more than 25 years experience in the role. Another possibility, as Sanders believes, Kadie was killed elsewhere and dumped at the tracks. Peter Van Sant: Aaron Major, is he cooperating with you guys? After her role in The Turning Point, the 16-year-olds acting career seemingly hit a bump in the road when Paramount let her 6-month contract lapse. On January 17, 2008, the bodies of Kadie and River Major were located near railroad tracks off of Oakley Road inBerkeleyCounty. Then, as she was leaving, she spotted Kadie's truck undamaged -- about 500 feet from the tracks. JERRY MERRITHEW: If you knew what happened, would you tell us? Sheriff Lewis decided to let Aaron know he hasn't been forgotten and announced the re-opening of the case in a very big, public way. ", "We knew there was more to this," Sanders said. While the police have continued investigating, Aaron has maintained a low profile. They covered the walls with timelines and facts about the case, determined to find the truth -- whatever that might be. I dont know what got into him this [time], but it must be the devil," shesaid. Kadie and River Lynn had now been missing for more than 12 hours in stormy, icy conditions. On Sept. 6, Berkeley County officials said at a press conference that River did not appear to have been hit by the train. Sarah Watford: She was better than most people -- just had a giving heart, just a true genuine person. "I think he wanted Kadie and River found," Kokinda told "48 Hours.". When the investigation into Kadie Majors death was reopened in September 2018, Aaron Major was publicly mentioned as the only. SC House passes bail reform to stop what it calls 'revolving door' for criminals, Alex Murdaugh's prosecutor warns jury in final argument: 'Don't let him fool you, too', New penny tax proposed to fix Spartanburg County roads, bridges, Georgetown County natural resources plan deferred for County Council feedback, The Berkeley Independent - Moncks Corner, SC, Live: Jurors in Alex Murdaugh's murder trial travel to Moselle, site of the slayings, By Thomas Novelly LT. Dean Kokinda told CBS that Vicky Hall had valid questions about the original case that hadnt been answered. Kadie Majors mother, Vicky Hall, drives down railroad tracks where the body of Major, who was pregnant and her 10-month-old granddaughter River were found in 2008, Thursday, March 21, 2019 in Moncks Corner. Jessica Sanders: Horrible they dropped the ball in every way here. Simpson case is searching for answers in Kadie Major's death, Former police officer sues Moncks Corner chief over alleged racist comments, Berkeley County sheriff has asked SLED to review suspicious 2008 Kadie Major death case, Moncks Corner police chief suspended after officer's arrest, lawsuit over woman's search, Charleston moves to create new board to help homeowners restore dilapidated houses, Alex Murdaugh's prosecutors push back on 2-shooter theory in final day of testimony, International African American Museum sets new opening date. A decade after her daughter's death, Hall finally got her chance to talk with detectives about her case and "48 Hours" was there. Sanders decided to continue working as a private investigator. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. Days later, investigators concluded the two were hit by a train during an apparent suicide. Lt. Dean Kokinda: We believe that night there was a fight Some argument whether it be verbal or physical. Sign the petition. January 22nd, 2008. WebThis video is unavailable. Det. However, his stories Hall and Sanders went to work determined to show that Kadie was not psychotic. and the hardest thing, I guess, is to know how much they suffered. Vicky Hall: For justice to happen would be the best news of what really happened that night. After she intimated the authorities, he returned a few of those things. Kokinda says the cold case unit has confirmed that Aaron told the original detective a huge lie -- a potential game changer: AARON MAJOR [interrogation]: That's when I heard on talk radio 94.3 that there had been a person and a young child hit by the train in Berkeley County . Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Erin Corwin found out she was pregnant a week before she was strangled to death and dumped in an abandoned mine shaft near Joshua Tree National Park in 2014. An Air Force major in Texas has been accused of killing his wife after a 134-day missing person search ended with investigators discovering the woman's remains, authorities said. Peter Van Sant: The dead bodies of his family are right in front of him. Vicky Hall: He said when Kadie got home she said she had a premonition that someone was gonna kill her He said, "She's standing there shaking and trembling And she wanted to go get a hotel.". Lt. Dean Kokinda: I think that's one of the possibilities, yes. Grace Beahm Alford/Staff, A memorial near the site where Kadie Major, who was pregnant with her second child, and her 10-month-old daughter River were found dead near train tracks in 2008, Thursday, March 21, 2019 in Moncks Corner. They discounted that psychological report because they say it was based largely on Ollic's investigation. In one version, Aaron claimed Kadie stayed at the door, but he stated that she came in and fed the baby in another. trying to numb my pain but actually all it did is make everything worse. Kadies mother disagrees and says the sheriffs department has been avoiding me. Kadies family hired a private investigator, Jessica Sanders, who also believes Kadie did not step in front of the train and thinks Kadies husbandAaron Majorkilled Kadie and River Lynn. As a Patriots player in the NFL for three seasons, he was on the way to greatness until his sudden arrest, trial, and conviction for the 2013 shooting murder of Odin Lloyd, followed by his suicide. Please share if you already signed. Sheriff Duane Lewis has stated that Aaron is currently the only suspect, but he has so far refused to cooperate with police and as of the time of writing no charges have been filed in this case. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, To investigators, all indications seemed to point to the pregnant 26-year-old throwing herself in front of a passing train while battling crippling postpartum depression. Business is good. she always had questions and none of them were answered. All rights reserved. Rick Ollic, a former Berkeley County sheriff's captain who is now chief of the Moncks Corner Police Department, said a note in Kadie's pocket contained scribblings about spiritual warfare and the Antichrist. Hall routinely tried to share suspicions such as these with Capt. The initial theory was Kadie jumped toward the side of the train and the impact hurled River into the creek. However, as per a CBS report from 2019, he had not cooperated with the authorities. He didn't want to speak about the case further because of the national attention it attracted. To begin with, Lewis says blood and tissue spatter evidence show that the original investigators got the wrong train. Aaron Major continues to live the life of a free man -- something Hall blames on the original investigator, Rick Ollic. I. One of the witness statements was made by a woman who claimed to have seen Kadie walk down the tracks. Beneath it is a statue of a cherub, covered in dirt and dust from passing CSX and Amtrak trains. Legal Statement. Hall was driving home from an Applebee's restaurant when she received a call from her daughter. The team would like to ask Aaron about those lies, but there's a problem. Ollic says they found a note in Kadie's pocket which he believes is compelling evidence that she was delusional obsessed with reading about end of the world conspiracies on the internet. Vicky Hall [to detectives]: And when she's shaking and trembling how is she holding River? Is that true? What else did they get wrong? Two days after this, on April 19, 2017, he was found hanging in his jail cell. It just looked fat. All rights reserved. McDonald reported his 29-year-old wife missing March 1. tnovelly@postandcourier.com, Lawyer connected to the O.J. Sometime around 1:44 am on January 17, Aaron rushed to Kadies mothers house to give her some unsettling news. Lt. Dean Kokinda: You can hide depression from your friends and family, but you don't hide paranoia. drinking out of his big McDonald's cup. Now hes the Moncks Corner Police Chief. But Ollic said Aaron's hand was injured two days later, when he was picking out coffinsfor Kadie and River. Then he started going on about conspiracy theories, such as notions that the government blew up the Twin Towers and that the Antichrist was coming, Hall said. Ken Dillinger: Pretty much cut and dry that he doesn't have his stories together of what really happened, and every time he thinks about it, he doesn't remember what he said. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. "The evidence shows it was a northbound train. Hall headed straight to Oakley Road, but there was no train, no vehicle, no sign of a collision. 48 Hours showed the incompetence. Vicky Hall: I just remember them looking at me in the eye and saying, "Your daughter had a mental illness, and she did this.". Kadie's white 2006 Chevrolet Colorado pickup was parkedclose to Hall's home, at the end of nearby Oakley Road. Det. Correct? and I put it in my closet. Then, Hall says, out of the blue, Aaron suddenly started going off on a string of bizarre conspiracy theories. It's dozens and dozens of pages of emails that she said that she sent to you during that time, and you didn't answer one of these. Det. "It's a blessing. She had deep lacerations across her lower abdomen and right thigh. I believe 100 percent there was a fight and she was trying to leave him. And we'd look out, and that cross never came back. Not very assuring for the citizens. Hall still had a giant box of documents sitting in her home. JERRY MERRITHEW: What do you think happened? In the year that followed, Shayanna became pregnant, and in 2012, the couple gladly welcomed their daughter and got engaged. Lewis and Kokinda did what Ollic and his team didn't do -- talk to Kadie's closest friends and family.\. With the help of the producers at 48 Hours the case has been re-opened. Det. 48 Hours airs Saturdays at 10 pm on CBS. Lewis saidhe is not the only one, we are casting a wide net to ask people to come forward; persons of interest can be someone who we want to talk to or need to talk to. When Van Sant tracked down Kadies husband Aaron Major for an interview, he was denied. Among their many theories, maybe an answer to that question: that Kadie fled the house after a fight, drove her pickup truck to the tracks, got out and ran with Aaron giving chase. 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