Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Paste as plain text instead, Never had an issue with the factory barrel. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. Your link has been automatically embedded. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. Your link has been automatically embedded. Thanks for the info. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Upload or insert images from URL. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Nick29 Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. Upload or insert images from URL. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. Does it function? I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. Will get some pics next time at the range. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. I am making sure not to ease it forward. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. Wish I could look at it directly. Is it safe to shoot? This is only going to be used at the range. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. thats one of my fears. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. Its never happened with the factory barrel. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? Thank you! Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! - Bren. By Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. Or like actually hitting it with a file some? I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. Lord, make me fast and accurate. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! You can post now and register later. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? No lube should be needed on RSA. What load you firing? Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! What does the extractor look like? Have you tried it with the factory barrel? I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Does anyone have any suggestions? The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Pasted as rich text. Also do you have another 17 handy? That's been my experience. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. is your locking block seated correctly? Paste as plain text instead, Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? No need to clean, just add lube. Who knows. I couldnt be happier. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. The Barbie dolls are mine. I could measure how it was off. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. You cannot paste images directly. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I only shoot factory ammo. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. Pasted as rich text. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. Building a V2 soon. Thank you for that great info! I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. Thanks for the suggestion. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Did you try having someone else shoot it? In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Clear editor. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. You can post now and register later. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. UPDATE! Like polishing amounts? before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Is this normal with these mods? This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Im a little ahead of you on this path. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. I will look into it. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. It now passes the recoil spring test. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Oh its not a logical move. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. 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